I have been a member of the Green Party since it was the Ecology Party, but have long been only an armchair member (actually, that suggests too much activity!) because I think Rupert's point about the electoral route going nowhere has been visibly true for many years. So, being a philosopher and lecturer, I have concentrated on thinking, writing and teaching about fundamentals. But I have no other political home, and hence I very much welcome the GreensCAN initiative. In my view it should be aiming to do more than just add 'targeted NVDA' to the explicitly Green-political menu. It should also be working out other kinds of non-electoral intervention, designed to subvert the fossil fuel state and build up replacement institutions, which a serious Green-political protagonist could pursue. And it should be campaigning to change the Green Party from within so that it becomes such a protagonist before it is too late.